Last time I checked Metalcore is a mix of both genres, Hardcore and Metal, which technically means it is Metal. Next you will be telling me Nu-Metal and Trash Metal isn't Metal aswell.

Nu-Metal isn't metal, at all really. Trash Metal isn't a genre.

Nu-Metal doesn't exist.

Take On Me is a definite buy. Everything else is a pass

So you are saying such bands as System of A Down, Korn, Disturbed, Static-X and Godsmack isn't Metal?

Oh and I wonder what genre Metallica, Antrhax (which are metal trashing mad mind you), Slayer, Megadeth, Sepultura, Overkill and Evile is then if Trash Metal doesn't exists.

And if you are going to tell me that "it is only Metal when they growl" or "have that and that sound" I am gonna give you a "Silliest Claim" award.

Actually, that is absolutely correct, none of those bands are even close to metal, closest would be SOAD, and if they would have played solos on their first three albums then they would be groove metal, but they didn't.

There is a difference between Thrash and Trash. All those bands are Thrash metal, trash metal doesn't exist.

So what you are saying is that Metal need to have guitar soloes to be Metal? Give St. Anger a listen sometime, aswell as Disturbed who have plenty of heavy riffs and soloes in their newer stuff.



GRAMMAR NAZI! I am a Norwegian with a messed up keyboard and poor glasses, I would think I am excused for some small grammar errors like that.

Silly Dead Player, SoaD isn't nu-metal.

And no, none of those bands are "metal" (except for maybe SoaD, which would fall under alternative metal)

Ok now I am really curious of what you people consider Metal here. Care to explain how Static-X isn't Metal for instance?

Also, I dare you to say this song isn't Metal as fuck, which is a song by so-called "non-metal" band Korn:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU4J5BHfx6M

And before you start "but you said earlier that Metal isn't all growling" blah blah, yeah I never claimed so. Alot of Metal DO have growling, yes, but it doesn't need to have growling to be Metal.

That's way too horrible to even be considered music

Wow, never heard someone slam Mike Portnoy's drumming before... oh and the drum charts were finished before Jimmy's death. so there actually would not have been any difference in what was played, the drum sound itself may have been slightly different.

He's not slamming Mike Pornoy's drumming, he's slamming the drumming of their current drummer... whoever that is.

Very proffesional to try and squirm your way out of my question with your personal opinions.

No really, what do you people consider "Metal"? I am especially curious with you and Razor_Shark definition of the genre.

I don't think there's a universal definition of metal music, but bands like Static-X, Disturbed and KoRn have always sounded like a strange mix of rap and hard rock to me (a mix that has only worked for Run-D.M.C., Faith No More and the Beastie Boys, by the way). It's like metal for people that don't like metal.

Also, nü-metal is just a term invented by radio DJ's that were trying to figure out what to call Linkin Park

I honestly thought you meant trash metal, but now I do understand.

In your opinion though. You and Dog sure are pretty biased about opinions I must say. But ok, personal opinion about it, fine.

Razor_Shark, care to explain your definition of Metal?



Oh. Sorry for lashing out at you.

You have Mike Patton as your Avatar, and no mention of Faith No More? For shame, I would also add in Anthrax as a band that rapped and made it work.

Everything I write is my opinion, unless it's a well-known fact.

Opinion: Nü-metal and post-grunge are just names for really shitty hardrock
Fact: Faith No More is one of the best bands of the 90's

I editted it. I had a minor brain fart ^_^'

Also, I thought about adding Anthrax, but they only have I'm the Man (which I really like) and that terrible remix of Bring the Noise iirc

Oh really?

Also it doesn't hurt to be nice towards other people's opinions in music. After all, people do actually like the music you are going around saying sounds worse than shit.