non_zero
Thundersnow
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Added a "Pro" column to the songs page, it'll show an icon indicating if the song has Pro guitar/bass and harmonies. For official DLC if a song has a keys or drums part it will always have a Pro counterpart, so no icon is displayed in that case.

The RBN section works a little differently. It's still not mandatory for RBN authors to add Pro drums so we have no way of knowing if the song has proper Pro drums without buying it and playing it. So by default an RBN song will have "Unknown" Pro drums, you can confirm that it does or doesn't have them you can click the icon and mark it as such. Once confirmed it will show a Pro drums icon, or a "No Pro Drums" icon. I'd appreciate any help in bringing that up to date.

And there's a Pro icon next to the top instrument icons so that you can display and sort by Pro info. For instance, if you click the Guitar Icon, then the Pro icon, it'll show Pro Guitar tiers and clicking the column heading will sort by Pro Guitar.

The automatic RBN and song info updating broke when RockBand.com changed their layout, that's now working again.

Currently in the process of a massive video upload from CorporalGregg's channel that was ransacked recently (about 20GB worth), those videos should all be working again in a day or two.

Still need Pro skill indicators on profile pages, Pro features on the Find Players page, and separate Pro reviewing options, those will be next.
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danh
Roadie
6 Posts
Thanks for your efforts!
PoundedLemon
Drummer
28 Posts
I just went thru 8 RBN songs. So far only one pro chart. Yay! I'll update as I play them. Could be a while.
non_zero
Thundersnow
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Cool. For all recent releases discovered that don't have Pro charting, I'm going to write to the author and politely ask them what the hell is wrong with them.
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Karmeleaux
Eh.
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Thanks for your efforts, PoundedLemon.

Also zero, not sure if this is in the works but right now there's no keys icon to sort ratings and tiers by on the general Songs page. I do like the updated look of the general Songs page now, though.
non_zero
Thundersnow
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Do you see a Pro icon? Is it just the classic 4 instruments you see? There's supposed to be a keys icon, and I can see it and have used it, so I don't know why you can't see it.
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Karmeleaux
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non_zero said:
Do you see a Pro icon? Is it just the classic 4 instruments you see? There's supposed to be a keys icon, and I can see it and have used it, so I don't know why you can't see it.


Que curioso, I can see the Keys icon when logged out, but when I'm logged in it vanishes, even after clearing my cache.
PoundedLemon
Drummer
28 Posts
I've gone through everything that I have that is newer than June 16, 2010. So if a track still has a ? drum symbol, someone else will have to test it out and let us all know! The oldest song I have that has Pro charts is Backyard Buildyard by the Steve and Lindley Band, from November 7, 2009. Yes, even toms! So I'm going to go through all my older RBN stuff too.

Oh, and apparently, Rose of Jericho will be updating some of their older tracks for pro drums, and adding keys, so that's cool.
Karmeleaux
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I was wondering if the Harmonix bands had toms seeing how they knew about the secret, but I assumed the Heist would be the one to have them if they did.

And I'm excited for the RBN updates, both for old and new songs.
PoundedLemon
Drummer
28 Posts
The only problem is the updates won't be free.
Sideshow
AN-I-MAL!!!
1,190 Posts
Well I heard they are not going to update the RBN songs. The authors are being forced to re release the song with pro drums charted correctly. I'm sure a ton of songs could be re released with harmonies and keys also. I actually dont mind re buying songs if they include correct pro drum charting, harmonies, and keys.
Karmeleaux
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Sideshow said:
Well I heard they are not going to update the RBN songs. The authors are being forced to re release the song with pro drums charted correctly.


Yeah, the re-releases cost money. I know I also don't mind in most cases, but as many times before, it kinda hurts Harmonix's image on the RBN and more importantly hurts the image OF the RBN. At the very least, the universal reaction to Pro drums seems to not be 'OH WOW' but 'it's about time' so they should have given the documentation on it and if anyone figured out the context oh well!

While I'm replying/whining, I'm just curious if everyone else can see the keys icon on the Songs page. If it's just me then I don't really care, especially right now where all the keys songs are even on the first page.
Karmeleaux
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I figured it out: I had my interface set to Beatles: Rock Band, which doesn't have a keys icon in its set.
Zenzuki
Makin' Noise!
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Damn Karma.... Good Job!

I was wondering why I couldn't see the keys either, I also use the Beatles layout!

Changing it now! :)
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IndiaBhai
Vocalist
13 Posts
The Pro Tierings on the Doors songs are on the wrong songs.
IndiaBhai
Vocalist
13 Posts
Otherwise, thanks to alll for doing a great job on updating song info!
Karmeleaux
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non_zero said:
Still need Pro skill indicators on profile pages, Pro features on the Find Players page, and separate Pro reviewing options, those will be next.


Out of curiosity, will separate Pro reviewing options entail all instruments, or only select ones? Pro Guitar and Bass seem obvious to include, as well as Pro Keys. But are Pro Drums and Harmonies going to be included?

For the most part, they aren't that different. But there are a few songs of Pro Drums that are (partly) broken, and that's bad if you want to play Pro Drums.

Harmonies are also kinda weird, because they're 'on top of' vocals, instead of a different way of playing like the other Pro modes (sans Drums). But I do feel like sometimes I want to indicate songs are better with them, and sometimes songs are just bad for Harmonies.

I'm looking at you, Hold On Loosely. 'Who told me?' That's the only harmony part? Weak.
non_zero
Thundersnow
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Definitely won't separate for drums and vocals, if I ever get around to updating the system.
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Karmeleaux
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That's understandable, although a bit disappointing for vocals, because as I said it really does make a world of difference for some songs.
PortlandRidah
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I wish i had looked here b4 I posted some these in the suggustion section of the forum, my bad admin can lock it if need
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